• talos_the_true_god@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    14·
    19 hours ago

    Nail no.1 in the coffin for me was when this Durov guy sent an unsolicited telegram-wide message on election day in my country, claiming French interference in our elections.

    This is nail no.2 in the coffin.

    Guess I’ll get off my lazy arse and delete my telegram account now

  • ristoril_zip@lemmy.zipEnglish
    21·
    23 hours ago

    now telegram is going to insert random information about South African White genocide to every conversation. or it will be in every recommended reply at least.

  • Jimmycakes@lemmy.worldEnglish
    10·
    22 hours ago

    I only use telegram to buy illegal iptv subscriptions. Is there a reason I would ever need grok in there?

    • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      16 hours ago

      Yes, because we’re only a few weeks away from Artificial General Intelligence, which will create an Artificial Superintelligence, and it’ll be just like in the hit cyberpunk novel, Don’t Create the Torment Nexus.

    • NotKyloRen@lemmy.zipEnglish
      18·
      1 day ago

      I don’t know why people stuck with it. I’ve used it; I get that a lot of the initial success/hype was:

      • It’s not owned by Meta
      • “Putin hates Durov!”
      • “Unlimited” storage (lots of people using it as free cloud storage, which is dumb if you value your files)

      But your messages are not E2EE by default (only “Secret Chats”, which aren’t synced across devices)…Telegram (the organization) could always read your messages. I said this so many times and got called everything under the sun.

      “Why would they care about my messages though?” ------> Because $300 Million.

  • Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pubEnglish
    631·
    2 days ago

    Telegram ASTOUNDS me.

    Like, there’s been several instances of them outwardly admitting that their security sucks, not to use it for encrypted chats, that they just give logs away to world governments, and yet thousands of crypto bros and bots use telegram to function, EVEN ZLIBRARY, who could just as easily set up and use Matrix, has a Telegram bot for downloading books.

    • josefo@leminal.spaceEnglish
      5·
      1 day ago

      Their bot api is very easy to use. I have made some telegram bots because is so easy. Tried to do the same with WhatsApp and didn’t even get permission and api access.

      Average Joes use mainstream things, if you want to do something accessible, these bots are the way. Ideally, you want them to download or use an app that does some hand holding. I’m all up to the fediverse but let’s be honest, it has some non intuitive things for today’s user, most were trained to understand and like centralized services. They vaguely understand and use emails today, and mostly for account creation of other platforms.

      Disclaimer: haven’t tried to make signal bots, they are a thing?

      • NotKyloRen@lemmy.zipEnglish
        2·
        1 day ago

        No disrespect towards you or your response (which is a good response, btw) – but the Bot API being good means absolutely nothing when the core app is garbage. By “garbage”, I mean that it ignores basic best-practices (like not E2EE everything, which they claimed wasn’t possible with device sync – but look at FB Messenger, Signal, Whatsapp, etc all able to do it).

        Nobody is allowed to ask me why that matters. Because the answer is $300 Million.

        • josefo@leminal.spaceEnglish
          6·
          1 day ago

          It matters because when you try to build something new, you choose the path of least resistance. I’m not justifying it, I’m explaining it. Also, guess who doesn’t gives shit about E2EE? Average Joes.

          I agree with you, but still your idea of garbage is not shared by the general population. Remember that telegram got traction because it falsely claimed that it was secure, or at least more secure than WhatsApp.

  • whereisk@lemmy.worldEnglish
    27·
    1 day ago

    Wondering how long has this been cooking? A year or so ago musk started attacking signal for no discernible reason and recommending telegram instead.

    • Blemgo@lemmy.worldEnglish
      272·
      1 day ago

      Honestly, Telegramm always seemed to me a bit shifty since I learnt E2EE for chats was opt-in.

      • NotKyloRen@lemmy.zipEnglish
        8·
        1 day ago

        Been saying this for years. Then they introduced Premium to “help fund things” (but they’re also taking $300 MILLION from Elon, and giving them access to user data.

        So will basic features stop being paywalled now? Or are people going to have to keep paying to stop random people from messaging them?

  • REDACTED@infosec.pubEnglish
    45·
    2 days ago

    So, a software that is owned by US politician is working together with software that has links to Russian government?

    • blady_blah@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      1 day ago

      This is the real take away from all this. xAI is trying hard to keep up with the big-boys and has to pay a shit ton of money just to be in the game. xAI’s revenue will be in the deep red for a long time at this rate.

    • mcv@lemm.eeEnglish
      11·
      2 days ago

      Or is xAI paying for access to Telegram conversations to train Grok?

    • jnod4@lemmy.caEnglish
      25·
      2 days ago

      Having xAI accessing a billion of users conversations? They are going to have the most “educated” LLM. Also isn’t xAI getting subsidies from the government? Literalły workers of America are paying to spy, again

      • LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        9·
        2 days ago

        The funny thing is, half of Telegram is drugs, conspiracy nuts and really weird humour. The ai is going to be great, I can already see it.

    • CosmoNova@lemmy.worldEnglish
      8·
      2 days ago

      AI companies paying or straight up buying other businesses to spread their disease has become their go-to strategy as of late.