I thought secret chats were E2EE and weren’t stored on servers. That doesn’t necessarily mean Grok can’t read them if it’s not server side, but that’s what I’m curious about.
Ah no, I mean the government backdoor. Last we knew, Telegram was threatened, then it suddenly quiet and Premium launches. Fishy. So potentially the federal government has access.
Sorry, I’m bad at providing context. When it comes to another user accessing your messages, you should be right. However, when it comes to the US and Russian governments, its probably getting read already. And we all know what ties and connections Elon has there. So Grok can probably read them.
It looks like telegram under the U.S SCA and FISA acts may be gagged from disclosing government surveillance as well in their privacy policy or terms of service.
However, their privacy policy on secret chats say this.
Secret chats use end-to-end encryption. This means that all data is encrypted with a key that only you and the recipient know. There is no way for us or anybody else without direct access to your device to learn what content is being sent in those messages. We do not store your secret chats on our servers. We also do not keep any logs for messages in secret chats, so after a short period of time we no longer know who or when you messaged via secret chats. For the same reasons secret chats are not available in the cloud — you can only access those messages from the device they were sent to or from.
This would be a lie if government agencies had backdoor access to your EE2E messages. And would potentially line themselves up to a lawsuit? However I am not a lawyer and don’t know if there are other laws that overwrite this.
This is good to know. I hadn’t read the fine print, because I abandoned Telegram and never looked back. I hope its true and I agree, I also wouldn’t think they’d do this and then renege into a possible lawsuit.
I thought secret chats were E2EE and weren’t stored on servers. That doesn’t necessarily mean Grok can’t read them if it’s not server side, but that’s what I’m curious about.
https://privacyinternational.org/guide-step/5540/telegram-secret-chats-end-end-encrypted
Ah no, I mean the government backdoor. Last we knew, Telegram was threatened, then it suddenly quiet and Premium launches. Fishy. So potentially the federal government has access.
Sorry, I’m bad at providing context. When it comes to another user accessing your messages, you should be right. However, when it comes to the US and Russian governments, its probably getting read already. And we all know what ties and connections Elon has there. So Grok can probably read them.
It looks like telegram under the U.S SCA and FISA acts may be gagged from disclosing government surveillance as well in their privacy policy or terms of service.
However, their privacy policy on secret chats say this.
Secret chats use end-to-end encryption. This means that all data is encrypted with a key that only you and the recipient know. There is no way for us or anybody else without direct access to your device to learn what content is being sent in those messages. We do not store your secret chats on our servers. We also do not keep any logs for messages in secret chats, so after a short period of time we no longer know who or when you messaged via secret chats. For the same reasons secret chats are not available in the cloud — you can only access those messages from the device they were sent to or from.
This would be a lie if government agencies had backdoor access to your EE2E messages. And would potentially line themselves up to a lawsuit? However I am not a lawyer and don’t know if there are other laws that overwrite this.
This is good to know. I hadn’t read the fine print, because I abandoned Telegram and never looked back. I hope its true and I agree, I also wouldn’t think they’d do this and then renege into a possible lawsuit.