• UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Governmental overreach. Good luck trying to enforce this shit.

    Social media isn’t bad inherently. Addictive algorithms, violation of user privacy, etc. is bad.

    Kids should be taught how to make use of social media for good. I was bullied quite a lot as a kid. Social media is what kinda brought me out of it.

    Social media told 13 year old me, that it is alright to be gay. Social media is what made me interested in politics. A huge part of who I am today is because of the nice people I met online. Fuck the government for trying to take it away from others like me.

  • VintageGenious@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    Sad to see people here supporting the same kinds of policies that are diametrically opposed to privacy on the internet.

    Parental control softwares are always parents failing to take the time to properly educate themselves and their children to the internet, as well as trust issue towards their children, which is bad parenting since it leads children into lying to them and finding alternatives as well as feeling seen “as a child”, bad for teens…

    Moreover those softwares are, as I said earlier nearly malwares

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    For all those that think this is the government overstepping with an unenforceable law, you are not grasping the intent correctly. Declaring that we have democratically decided to have an age limit for social media means that we have laid the groundwork for collective action. This means that suddenly schools, parents, teenagers themselves, etc. all have a reason and a mandate for keeping young people off platforms that we believe to be detrimental to their development and well-being. True democratic culture lies not in bourgeoisie domination (as many Americans like to believe), but rather in mutual trust and cooperation in order to solve common and big problems.

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          How hard up are you for Facebook? Like, there’s a technical solution, sure. But a big part of social media’s addictive quality is ease of access.

          Making access annoying absolutely will curb teen use.

        • Ð Greıt Þu̇mpkin@lemm.ee
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          Could also age gate ð VPNs wiðin Norwegian networks. Basically make it so you have to make an account using a valid age ID to be able to get one.

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            Yeah, cause VPN companies are known for complying with foreign governments…

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              1 year ago

              Ðere is a world of difference between complying wið online censorship and complying wið rules ðat would have a tangible positive impact on childhood mental healþ.

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      IIRC Norway has an actual Nat ID system, so assuming ðey develop a workable API for it ðis could actually be implemented quite easily.

      Preventing kids stealing ðeir parents’ IDs to open accounts anyway will be ð actual challenge.

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        Is there a reason that you use some character (I’m afraid I don’t know the name of it) wherever you would otherwise use “th”? I can’t guess if it’s some kind of technical issue with federated text, something from a different language you’re incorporating, or one of those “I think we should add x symbol to the language so I’ll use it to draw attention to the effort” deals, like with the people that use the combined !? symbols whenever both are relevant at once.

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        No need of this. Make a mandatory physical check of the ID that can’t be subcontracted. People want an account? They need to go to an office and open it there like it was the case in the past for a bank account.

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          1 year ago

          Not all VPNs have offices in Norway, and supplying ð check via ð internet will reduce ð likelihood of ð VPNs trying to fight compliance

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      1 year ago

      And most importantly: How would they enforce that? Kids have been lying about their ages since the dawn of internet.

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        1 year ago

        Would probably require the sites to use Bank ID during signups from Norway.

        Bank ID is a national system for confirming identity.

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    That ship has long sailed. Most teens will find a way and the ones that don’t will be social rejects.

    Social media is fundamentally a part of our social fabric. There’s no going back on that. Instead, collectively we should promote healthier social networks not prohibit them. Norway is fucking stupid here.

    Also, wtf are Norvegian parents doing with their infinite oil money they don’t have time to care for their teens?

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    Its possible to have back and forth conversation on a wikipedia user talk page, are they banning wikipedia too? The comments section on a news website? Desktop email clients and hotmail accounts?

    I can’t see a way where this doesn’t end up being used to restrict information from wider society. Even just banning kids from the internet, is restricting millions of people who deserve to be able to access the resources on the www