no more issues since that one thing i mentioned in matrix

I may have issues I never had on windows but I have way fewer issues and if I mention them online roughly half the time a dude who develops the thing that caused it sees it and, completely unlike any microsoft employee, gives a fuck. I once mentioned that I experienced a bug in the only mbin mobile app in reply to a post that was related to mbin but not the app (directly, anyway) and jwr1, the guy who makes that app, responded asking what it was.

I have seen the reasoning they are actually presenting, and it is just various versions of “but I don’t want this to be here” even though they have the option of not interacting with it. nobody is forcing maintainers to support rust code in the thing they maintain, they just can’t prevent rust code from interfacing with it. their arguments are based purely on not wanting to interact with rust but they don’t have to, so they are wrong to block it.

being new does not mean you do not have the right to develop the same way everybody else is. they did not start these issues, there were C people causing issues for no reason other than not liking rust that started it.

cry about it?

yeah how dare they want to develop in the same way that everyone else does

I run krohnkite and klassy, but damn is it a fine default.

firstly, I clarified that I wasn’t saying it was bad. second, what other people say independent of me is irrelevant to what I said. third, I explained what the problem was that was making me say that about ubuntu in detail, cited the people saying there is a ‘wrong’ distro as a reason for doing that, and explicitly said (twice in this thread) that the only relevant things in how good a distro is are whether you like it and whether it works for you.

I never said it was the “wrong OS”, I’m just saying that it isn’t very good as opposed to other distros. I also went on to explain exactly why I say that and that the best distro is the one you like the most that works for your use case.

No problem, I try to explain that pretty well when people ask because it’s something that there’s a lot of misleading info about because of the tribalism.

It’s not ‘bad’ necessarily, but it makes a lot of controversial decisions such as it’s use of snap packages over flatpak. these decisions are harmful to the linux community as a whole and to the experience of using ubuntu, so it’s best to avoid supporting it.

for some context on the snap thing, basically different distros use different packaging formats (.deb, .rpm, etc.) which makes it hard to distribute software. also, each individual system is set up differently and has different packages which can make fixing bugs difficult, especially for developers who aren’t very familiar with linux. to solve this, flatpak is distro-agnostic (runs on any linux) and puts the app in the same environment on every system. it’s also sandboxed, which basically means each app is in it’s own little box and it can only see/interact with things it has permission to. snap does most of that as well, but unlike flatpak it is completely controlled by a single entity (canonical, company behind ubuntu) and it means that instead of one sandboxed thing for every distro we have two, which solves nothing. there are some other issues as well, but currently the issue of snap packages is the biggest one most people have with ubuntu.

for more information on all this, I would recommend The Linux Expirement on youtube. not by any means the only good linux channel, but my favorite. also, please ignore the tribalism. people will act like there is a best distro, there is not. people will act like a distro is useless because it doesn’t have some random tool that most don’t, it is not. if you like the distro and it works for you the it’s the best one because your use case is all that matters on your computer.

Ubuntu isnt very good, but a lot of people recommend it because it used to be good. use something else that has an Ubuntu base (for app availability). I would recommend tuxedo os for kde plasma and pop os for a gnome-like experience but a little better. a lot of people recommend mint but I wouldn’t, though the reason I wouldn’t doesn’t really matter to newer users. the most important thing to consider (assuming you’re choosing something with an Ubuntu base ther handles drivers normally) is what desktop environment you want. Ubuntu is a modified version of gnome. gnome is kind of like the computer equivalent of how phones work (in a good way). kde plasma is visually a lot like windows (pre 11)by default, but has enough customization that it can look however you want (mine is set up with a windows 10 style taskbar, tiling, and gnome-like handling of virtual desktops). pop shell (what pop os has) is a modified version of gnome that is kind of in between gnome and a conventional desktop, and they are working on something new called cosmic that is even better. remember you can always use a virtual machine to test without affecting your normal system.

edit: forgot to mention cinnamon (mint’s desktop). it looks pretty much just like windows 10 like kde, but it has less customization (on purpose). whether that matters or not is up to you.

they’re probably just mad that his Linux videos do a terrible job representing Linux.

@pretzel6666@c.im I know this isn’t entirely related to your post, but there was some stuff a while back trying to get LIMs (like unity) in KDE. maybe go and give these (https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=375951, https://invent.kde.org/plasma/breeze/-/merge_requests/126/commits) some attention? If we can show that enough people want this kind of stuff, maybe it’ll get some attention from people who know how to implement it.

hope this is in the next update

yeah, but you could always use a spacer to reserve some space or change what parts of an app are draggable. you also could simply not use this feature. that way whoever wants this feature has it and everyone else can continue to not care about it, like most of the options in any software.

edit: typed the instead of that, fixed it.

well obviously this would be an option and not a requirement (like the existing app menu titlebar button and panel widget, as well as the global menu widget.). there was some discussion of it being the default but I don’t think it should be because I agree that crowded titlebars don’t look that good. regardless, I think it should be an option because it gives people more control over the usage of space on there screen.

well first, it’d be optional like everything else in the titlebar. second, meta+left click and meta+right click for moving and resizing respectively. third, it doesn’t have to take up the whole titlebar, and most apps don’t have enough options for it to do that anyway.

most of the discussion about that said to collapse it into a hamburger menu. my preference would be to scroll.

@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de should be fixed now, thanks for letting me know. i hadn’t really used links on here before so i thought i had to do it that way. made the same mistake on another post about the same things.