The Octonaut

Instantly?

Hospitals, telecoms, schools, universities, research labs the world over would be left without security updates or tech support. Businesses would crash out, access to everything from Sharepoint to Outlook to Entra ID SSO cut off rendering tens of millions unable to work and likely furloughed or redundant.

Enjoy your accelerationist fantasies if you like, daring to assume that the void would be filled by fucking Linux Mint or something and not literally just Apple. But the idea that it would be instant is even more unhinged than the average .ml stammering about the misunderstood virtues of Russian anti-Imperialism.

If you’re trying to prove that I can indeed feel cringe, keep going, you’re almost there

All code uploaded to Github is scraped

This is the very simple statement that I was responding to, along with the next line about how using Github is implicit consent to feeding your data to an LLM. If the poster wants nuance, they are free to provide it themselves. You can see in subsequent responses there is none.

Of course them being different matters. That’s my point. Not all code uploaded to Github is being fed into an LLM. It is not consent if you are signing a contract demanding that something not be done. It’s preposterous even at a surface level.

Github Enterprise Server is different from Github Enterprise Cloud, which is what I was talking about, and which is explicitly not used for training LLMs, and if it were, would absolutely kill Github as a product and likely mire Microsoft in years of litigation.

Frankly I don’t know of any software company using Github Enterprise on-prem but I suppose there are probably some CEOs out there who haven’t taken the OpEx pill. Maybe deep in the rainforest with Mokele-Mbembe. Certainly in my sliver of the tech industry, telecoms, the idea of owning a server is akin to having a deskphone and an outgoing mail room.

Sure. Any day now.

Being embarrassed by association with people who say things like “all code uploaded to Github is subject to being scraped” might be childish. Not sure it’s as childish as being embarrassed by “cringe” though. That would imply I care about your opinion on my communication. I don’t.

I do care that you understand that a half dozen people in this thread are actively outing themselves as completely ignorant about the real world of software development and the software industry in general. Probably not surprising given the words “Gentoo” and “Codeberg” in the title of the post.

A company that pays Microsoft to host code and would join the suit that would bury them if they used proprietary code to train models in breach of paid contracts?

All of the responses are saying that Github reads all code. Github public and Github enterprise are products of the same organisation. Many are even saying they will consume enterprise data anyway despite contracts not to. As I said in my first response, there aren’t many things that would ruin Microsoft’s ability to operate but this is one.

What vibes do you think I’m going off?

Source: I’m employed

“Gullible” is not a thing you can be when somehow has signed a contract with you… that’s why contracts exist.

You aren’t paying enterprise subscriptions to use Facebook, and as bad as they are, Microsoft are not Meta.

It’s in every enterprise and business contract signed with them. The FAQ was just the first result on Google. Its obviousness shouldn’t even require that much. It’s extremely clear how few of Lemmy’s “technology” crowd have any contact with adult life.

No, it isn’t.

“Basically” your vibes aren’t an actual answer. Businesses are not forking over millions to give away their code.

You can have conspiracy theories about it using the code anyway (I’m particularly confused about your use of the word “scrape” which tells me you don’t know how AI training works, how hosting a website works, or how scraping works - maybe all three?) but surreptitiously using its competitors’ code to train CoPilot would be a rare existential threat to Microsoft itself.

Does GitHub use Copilot Business or Enterprise data to train GitHub’s model?

No. GitHub does not use either Copilot Business or Enterprise data to train its models.

https://github.com/features/copilot#faq

Failed?

I’ll have you know, some of us didn’t even try!

Since the 400s anyway.

it’s got settings

Well yeah, Librewolf is basically nothing but settings.

Firefox settings.

Confuses me no end when people rage against Mozilla and then recommend a product that cannot exist without Mozilla.

What exactly do you think the EU is?

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Yes, absolutely it is virtue signalling. You are taking an utterly meaningless stance for which the only upside for anyone is you think you maintain some kind of honour despite consuming “theft slop” unknowingly every day, even as you read this sentence, and the only downside for anyone is that you don’t get to experience a game that you otherwise would enjoy used to have, even if deliberately and knowingly, used to have some AI textures.

You’re the one who ignored what I said, which is why I’m essentially just having to repeat myself. If you take such hardline stance that any use at all is “theft slop”, you might as well go offline. It’s in the code that made the app you’re using. It’s in the code running your OS. It’s in music you listen to. It’s in the movies you watch.

Absolutely push back on theft - deliberate misrepresentation of someone’s work or style as orignal. Absolutely push back on slop. Just because it took a minute to generate something doesn’t mean you don’t then check it before productionising it. But taking this weird religious stance where something literally is tainted from previously having used AI, that is just for you. You’ve got about 30,000 days on this earth, man. Probably a good chunk of that is gone already. Spend a few hours of it playing an interesting, original game which does more to demonstrate the value of real creativity and originality than any little personal protest you indulge yourself in.

They removed the AI content less than a week after release. By unspecified I mean it wasn’t a deliberate “this is the AI section”.

The awards were given 4 days ago, 6 months after release (more?). So the judgement is not on the game as it stands or even as it was submitted.

The awards don’t matter, I’m just genuinely baffled by this person depriving themselves of joy because of some virtue signalling that relies entirely on just not being aware of AI being used everywhere else.

Following the publication of this article, Sandfall Interactive wishes to provide the following clarifications.

The studio states that it was in contact with El País on April 25 - three months prior to this publication. During these exchanges, Sandfall Interactive indicated that it had used a limited number of pre-existing assets, notably 3D assets sourced from the Unreal Engine Marketplace. None of these assets were created using artificial intelligence. Sandfall Interactive further clarifies that there are no generative Al-created assets in the game. When the first Al tools became available in 2022, some members of the team briefly experimented with them to generate temporary placeholder textures. Upon release, instances of a placeholder texture were removed within 5 days to be replaced with the correct textures that had always been intended for release, but were missed during the Quality Assurance process.

Because they used, and then removed, placeholder AO generated textures in some unspecified location?

I hate to break it to you buddy but for the last 2 years every piece of software you’ve used, including this one, has had the dev experiment with AI tools.