FriendOfDeSoto

Don’t call me Shirley.

It’s like with planting trees. The best time was to plant some 50 years ago, the second best time is now. But it is too late in many ways.

Nothing fills my heart with such joy as negative Meta headlines.

The Yahoo!tech writers went on a deep dive and watched a YouTube video.

Yahoo!tech digging deep for a story there.

I am in Japan where they have just discovered a cartel of ice cream manufacturers pushing up prices. Supply and demand. This is capitalism, baby!

This is a lawsuit, right? It’ll go through a few judges’ hands on appeals and what not and by the time the companies get their slap on the wrist in 2-5 years they will have made so much money it doesn’t matter.

Alibaba picking up Anthropic’s fair use strategy?

Edit: is there an argument for letting the US ruin its economy and environment to train all these models and then just swooping in before it turns into a mild madmaxian hellscape to distill and/or extract the knowledge? Beats having to do this on your own, doesn’t it?

Not like any other election before where tech companies had zero interests and just thought may the best team win.

Couldn’t have happened to a nicer boss or company.

You’re reading more criticism into that than I really feel. I just answered a question. And my original point was merely that while the article makes it almost sound like this ruling was final, it isn’t. The war will be entering its second battle soon.

Libre Office.

So this was the regional court (Landgericht). The next one is the superior regional court (Oberlandesgericht) where Google will appeal now. Since I don’t see any issues of the Bavarian constitution relevant to this case, the next one up is probably the federal court of justice (Bundesgerichtshof). And there is a small chance that either Google or the courts along the way decide to throw this to the EU court of justice.

Most decisions like this get suspended upon appeal, completely or partially, until people give up or there are no more courts to pester. But every appeal will be taken seriously and goes into review at the court whether there is merit to it. That takes time. And Google has the money for a frivolous tour through the courts. And then there is the danger of court ping-pong where the superior court sends this back with notes to the regional. Whose ruling may be appealed again, etc.

Google can challenge the court’s ruling. As of writing, Google hasn’t decided whether it will appeal the verdict.

This article is out of date because Google has decided to appeal in the meantime.

This verdict is not legally effective yet. And it may never be. On the high seas and in a German courtroom, the people say, you’re in God’s hand. The next higher court can send this back to the lower court or could overrule it all together. And if they don’t do any of that, Google can go to the next higher court. Every appeal will add anywhere from 6 months to 2 years to the timeline. By the time this gets a final ruling Skynet may have killed us all.

A Canadian singer/songwriter could surely do something with an article talking shit about so-called AI having a so-called AI bullet point summary at the top. Don’t you think?

And spray paint may be used for graffiti.

The ruling isn’t final.

On that we are agreed. The headline speaks of a landmark ruling, which I think is too much acclaim for a decision a higher court could just dismiss.

I think my sniping at Bavaria speaks for itself.

They don’t need sway as much as money and lawyers, which I imagine they have. And this verdict is probably on the worst outcome end of the scale for them. I cannot imagine they will accept a ruling that calls them daft like this one does. They will try to water down liability for their model’s fantasy summaries. Whether they succeed is a different question. But they will try, so they will appeal, so this verdict isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on. Yet.

All I said is that this verdict isn’t effective yet. These headlines and sadly this article buries this fact in a sentence in the last paragraph. Blink and you miss it stuff. Lemmies tend to overlook this and declare victory over Google when this was merely the first battle of the war.

This isn’t final. Google has time to appeal. Let’s hold off on the label “landmark” until it reaches legal effectiveness. Which it probably won’t, however good a verdict by a German regional court, much less one based in Bavaria, this is in my opinion.

Google lawyers arguing in court that Google’s so-called AI results are shit anyways and people should know it is chef’s kiss.

“We will change the law” means they haven’t changed it yet. And this PM is so god damn popular in his own party, they are just trying to get his possible replacement in in an otherwise unnecessary byelection. This sounds decisive but isn’t a fait accompli by any stretch of the imagination. The tech big guns will sound amenable to such a policy but will do fuck all.

Yeah but it isn’t here.