Some people will eventually understand that they’re wasting your time (when they clearly have something they want) by waiting for you to answer (and effectively have to wait on them) before they respond with what the ask is when you could have just answered it the first time.
Those people are just as bad as the ones who just send “hey, can I ask you a question?” and then nothing else until you acknowledge them.
I used to contract with a company where it was almost ubiquitous for someone to start a text-based conversation with the entire message: “Hey…” — ellipses and everything. It was bad enough that other members of my company that were contracted to the same contract would jokingly add ellipses to random things when messaging each other.
Are you talking about people just saying “hi” or the meta-behavior of people using nohello.net in their Teams/Slack status? Because the latter is more annoying to me
IDK, have you considered that perhaps the people demanding to be approached/questioned in a specific way are the friction point here?
Even on the nohello site, the “right” and “wrong” conversations are the exact same length (two messages each way). I genuinely struggle to see the point of any of this.
Have you ever considered that you’re wasting everyone’s time by not getting to the point?
I genuinely struggle to see the point of any of this.
Clearly, considering you didn’t even check the timing on the messages and see the first one took twice as long (both in time, and in actual messages because half of the second convo are just them thanking each other)
The questions may be the same length, but what isn’t the same length is the time between the initial asking and the final answer. In the first example the actual question isn’t asked for 5 minutes after the initial conversation start, whereas in the second example the whole exchange is over in less than 2 minutes.
You looked at the word count but not the timestamps.
The hello is not the issue. But getting a notification before the question is.
Ultimately what happens if there’s a bunch of “helloers” approaching you, you end up muting the messaging app and only check messages every X time. Rather than being available, pros and cons. And there’s definitely an argument to be had, that it’s the superior way of working - But hello only people, just shoot themselves in their foot and get longer time to response
I should probably clarify that it’s pretty rare for me to receive a message that’s literally just “hello” or “hi” followed by nothing. At the least I’ll see the typing indicator so I know there’s more coming, but the link in the status message just reads passive aggressive. Also - is the person that’s sending you a ping or SYN really going to notice your status?
I never have this problem of people giving me AI responses to my questions.
What I do have a problem with is people who do this:
https://nohello.net/en/
Just don’t reply. Been doing it for years in both personal and work contexts.
I just say hi back and check my messages again in a half hour. They blew their chance!
I have people I just ignore until there’s two notifications
It has been an interesting experience telling people who only say hello that they’re being rude.
Some people will eventually understand that they’re wasting your time (when they clearly have something they want) by waiting for you to answer (and effectively have to wait on them) before they respond with what the ask is when you could have just answered it the first time.
Those people are just as bad as the ones who just send “hey, can I ask you a question?” and then nothing else until you acknowledge them.
https://dontasktoask.com/
I think autism bit me in the ass again 😭
Just ignore them. They will catch on eventually.
Yeah, I straight up don’t respond until they’ve asked/said the thing that they’re contacting me for.
Usually they finish their thought without me ever needing to respond. I did have one coworker who just… never said anything else. That’s also a win.
I used to contract with a company where it was almost ubiquitous for someone to start a text-based conversation with the entire message: “Hey…” — ellipses and everything. It was bad enough that other members of my company that were contracted to the same contract would jokingly add ellipses to random things when messaging each other.
I love it… when people use ellipses… in business writing. So dramatic… so mysterious…
Odd…
…?
I have both and now have both links saved for reference
Hey
Hi
Are you talking about people just saying “hi” or the meta-behavior of people using nohello.net in their Teams/Slack status? Because the latter is more annoying to me
How come you find the latter annoying?
It’s the most effective way to let the entire company aware they should not start their conversation that way with me
IDK, have you considered that perhaps the people demanding to be approached/questioned in a specific way are the friction point here?
Even on the nohello site, the “right” and “wrong” conversations are the exact same length (two messages each way). I genuinely struggle to see the point of any of this.
Have you ever considered that you’re wasting everyone’s time by not getting to the point?
Clearly, considering you didn’t even check the timing on the messages and see the first one took twice as long (both in time, and in actual messages because half of the second convo are just them thanking each other)
The questions may be the same length, but what isn’t the same length is the time between the initial asking and the final answer. In the first example the actual question isn’t asked for 5 minutes after the initial conversation start, whereas in the second example the whole exchange is over in less than 2 minutes.
You looked at the word count but not the timestamps.
The hello is not the issue. But getting a notification before the question is.
Ultimately what happens if there’s a bunch of “helloers” approaching you, you end up muting the messaging app and only check messages every X time. Rather than being available, pros and cons. And there’s definitely an argument to be had, that it’s the superior way of working - But hello only people, just shoot themselves in their foot and get longer time to response
I should probably clarify that it’s pretty rare for me to receive a message that’s literally just “hello” or “hi” followed by nothing. At the least I’ll see the typing indicator so I know there’s more coming, but the link in the status message just reads passive aggressive. Also - is the person that’s sending you a ping or SYN really going to notice your status?
I know for a fact several did, as I’ve had a lot of former hello only people ask about the status through the years
Noted