• sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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    3 days ago

    There are native Linux games, but mostly from AA and indie publishers. So by that mark, it has been a first-class citizen since mid-2010s, after Steam started officially supporting Linux.

    That said, I think that goalpost is a bit too far away. I consider it “first-class support” if major AAA devs offering official technical support to Linux users is more common than not, regardless of whether it’s packaged w/ Proton or directly as a Linux native binary. How they distribute it is up to them, as long as they actually support Linux users. We’re not there yet, but we’re a lot closer than we were even just 5 years ago.

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      3 days ago

      There are native Linux games

      They exist. How many of them do you see on the front page of the Steam store? Almost never. Games that people actually play are very rarely Linux native. If they were, Proton never would have been created.

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        All of the Paradox games, Civ, Pillars of Eternity, DoTA, Counterstrike. its a small fraction sure, but its not like no big games have native linux versions.

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            2 days ago

            of the current top 30 on most played on steam 7 have a native Linux version, just shy of 1/4. I’d hardly call that almost never.

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                Games that people actually play are very rarely Linux native.

                Was your exact quote, I think showing 1/4 of the most played games on Steam are linux native shows that isnt the case.

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                  23 hours ago

                  Games people actually play

                  Games that are played most often

                  Do you see the difference there?

                  You’re talking about seven games. Seven. 7. Do you know how many games there are?

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        3 days ago

        Most indie games seem to have native Linux support, so I guess whenever one of those hits the front page. For example, Slay the Spire and Darkest Dungeon have spent some time there, and they have native Linux support. There are plenty more examples as well.

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        And of these native ports, you’ll get better performance using proton because the port was done by a third party studio and ended support after a year.

        I’m refering to Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel btw.

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        3 days ago

        If they were, Proton never would have been created.

        Even if most games were native there would be still be a case for Proton for older games, and to approach 100% compatibility.

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          Sure, but it wouldn’t have been worth the effort. Guarantee Valve has dumped a looooot of money into it’s development.