People can’t be civil, locking.
Isn’t their slogan “shop like a billionaire?”. This tracks.
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Billionaires rape real children.
I know Temu uses that slogan. Are they owned by the same people? Would make sense, if so.
and it finally makes sense, because I don’t think the average billionaire spends money on garbage as much as their average customer
Dammit … I hate it because iys true. ::upvotes::
Baseball, huh?
I don’t think that banning this kind of product will solve the fact that there are people with a disorder. So what’s the point? Moralism?
It will solve it being normalized. And F-off to the pedophile apologist bots rising in these threads saying it doesn’t so far that it’s been brought up.
It’ll never be normalized because it’s fucking weird, whether that’s legal or not. And you can stop calling anyone with a different opinion a bot, it makes you sound like one.
It’s not weird. Its not normalizing a kink. It’s violence. It’s raping minors. Stop downplaying it. And yes, there are bots. And I frankly do not give a shit what you think of me for pointing it out. I think I’ll continue to live a perfectly happy life without your approval over à fucking comment that triggered you online into the worst hill to get distracted by and go after during a discussion about normalizing raping minors. It doesn’t compare to the disappointment I have for you. I’m sure we will both live but at least I’ll sleep better knowing my dispppintment was a bit more high value energy than ‘dur, don’t insults the bots’ shit you’re here wasting time and energy doing.
I saw your comments in other threads, and you don’t sound happy at all, but whatever. Have a nice life.
It’ll never be normalized
Woody Allen, Sleeper, 1973, dinner party scene
Note: Woody Allen is Jewish. The film was released 25 years after the Holocaust.
Is this for shock value? Or you are implying that an agenda was being sold?
Are bad dragon sex toys normalizing bestiality?
Yes, before long there will be people basing their entire identity on wanting to be fucked by drago… Oh wait
Comparing raping minors as kink play and think that’s how you validate pedophiles, you’re the fucking problem.
Did you maybe respond to the wrong comment? I was just making a joke about a user here “dragonfucker” or smt, with pronouns drag/dragself. Idk if they’re still active, I blocked em ages ago
rape of minors is not kink play. You will never ever convince me otherwise. Youre manipulation tactics are sad. Go Rotate and be angry about it forever.
No manipulation tactics from me, just a valid equivalence of unusual sex toys
Besides, it’s clear you’re the rotating angry bean here, buddy. I mean, look at how much time you’re spending going feral on every comment in this thread, calling everyone who’s not throwing angry “YOURE PEDO” comments a pedophile bot.
I don’t think they’re bots, and that concerns me.
Nope there is a huge amount of bots because lemmy had an engagement problem so people had the bright idea to fake it till it makes it. But then they realized faking it IS making it.
If banning sex dolls that look like children is moralism, I’m OK with that.
“that look like children” is not enforceable. Are you requiring a minimum height? A minimum number of ageing features? A certain breast size? What about cartoon/anime stylized products?
But the core issue is that this literally won’t solve anything and it’s, therefore, a waste of time and public money.
Many people would fuck Ariana Grande and she looks younger then she should.
Why do you think it is unenforceable? Australia already enforces a ban on these dolls and arrests anyone attempting to import them.
I believe they meant it wasn’t easy to consistently enforce, for the reasons they mention.
Australia might be doing this, but it doesn’t change that it’s all arbitrary and impossible to prove in court outside of the “best judgement” call argument, which is by definition inconsistent.
That, and the fact they’re playing tag with people trying to sell it, which are breaking down these dolls into parts and selling them separately. And what for? In the end it’s just an object which sales ban won’t solve any real issues.
If it was for free, I’d consider supporting it. But it has a cost, it’s subjective (to some extent), and has no tangible benefit other than making some people feel good about themselves.
Anime stuff is crazy. What amounts to young girls with huge tits in a lot of cases. All kinds of products like bedding or pillows feature them, and of course there’s porn of it, and as far as I can tell it doesn’t get treated any different than a niche weird porn. Somehow these are fine, but sex dolls aren’t? I’m not advocating for one or the other, but it seems like if we call one “bad”, the other should be too.
If you read the title of the article, it would seem this is absolutely enforceable.
Also, of course Lemmy is arguing in favour of child sex dolls, I’d expect nothing less.
Ofc you frame it that way. Most people on here are just against banning things where there’s A, no victims and B, no real way to determine age. You’d have to ban drawings the same way if the characters appear childlike. How is this enforceable. By the opinion of whoever is looking over something? The article specifically mentions weight and size but I don’t think thats sufficient in itself.
Doesn’t France already ban depictions of characters that look like minors in sexual situations and also depiction of rape and sexual violence.
In the US obscene drawings of underage characters in sexual situations is illegal under the Protect act “Section 1466A of Title 18, United States Code, makes it illegal for any person to knowingly produce, distribute, receive, or possess with intent to transfer or distribute visual representations, such as drawings, cartoons, or paintings that appear to depict minors engaged in sexually explicit conduct”
Some states explicitly prohibit cartoon pornography
Out of curiosity, does that include cherubs or is religious iconography exempt?
With something like this, a judgement call would ultimately need to be made, yes. That’s how a lot of law enforcement works.
lol they’re not arguing against because it’s a pointless measure
you’re confusing picking your fights with being supportive
If children sex dolls are readily available it risks normalizing the concept of sex with children. Both for potential pedophiles as well as children who browse shein, might get the impression that adults having sex with children is a thing.
It absolutely has a point, the point being manufacturing and selling sex toys that look like children is absolutely disgusting.
And picking your battles doesn’t typically mean arguing against the law being passed on the Internet.
is absolutely disgusting
Why not ban scat fetish then as well?
Scat fetish typically involves grown adults.
ah, the point is that it’s disgusting, thanks for confirming the emptiness of the argument
next time I’m before an unflushed toilet I’ll call the authorities
Sex dolls resembling weapons is where I draw the line.
Ok the kid ones are bad too.
I read the entire article looking for this and couldn’t find anything and I’m so confused. Did they mean to say “Selling weapons and sex dolls resembling children”?
Or are we literally talking about Desert Eagle Fleshlights?
Edit: I just realized that “Selling weapons and sex dolls resembling children” is equally as confusing. The weapons resemble children? A Glock 9mm-year-old
“Now everyone can get fucked by the 2nd amendment!”
Worst situation to yell “I’m shooting my load”
Ngl any reason to block shein is good.
You don’t believe in the free market? What would Milton Fridman think?
The issue is that the free market is abusing people where regulations are spotty at best to sell at low prices where work regulations are way higher and kill the local market. I believe if a company doesn’t follow local regulations it shouldn’t be available there at all.
I agree and sadly the U.S.A. did not. They followed Milton Friedman bogus claims and will pay the price
Probably the more based take I’ve read here.
Next…do the US Republican party.
Jesus fucking wept that’s gross
The one reason this weirds me out (without having seen these dolls tbf) is that it was decided something sex-related is too childlike and that somehow makes it illegal apparently? Like, what legal basis is there for it? I have never heard about any law prohibiting ‘too childlike’ appearance, let alone seen it applied.
I mean, have these people seen what’s going on in some (not to say many) anime? There are characters being explicitly sexualized, while being canonically underage. How is one thing okay and the other isn’t?
Neither are, and animated materiel depicting children in a sexual way is illegal in many places.
It’s actually pretty consistent with the laws in many countries, animated child porn and child sex dolls are vile, and anyone arguing against that should be put on a list.
I mean, if it is illegal its obviously not being enforced
Surprisingly many people in support of childlike sex dolls here.
in support of childlike sex dollsin opposition to making feel-good legislation without evidence-based policiesIf I had kids, I wouldn’t leave half the people in this thread alone with them.
Demanding someone prove this is bad is just… Something else.
I hope you just wouldn’t leave your kids around strangers at all. They could do a lot of damaging things, like talk about how god “exists.”
I think if they want to ban this they should ban images of killing, right? I think Call of Duty does more damage.
(To be clear: I don’t want one of these dolls)
It’s all kinda weird to me but once someone goes the route of sex dolls I’m not sure why what it looks like matters. It’s all just rubber holes to put your dick in. What if it looks like a horse? Or has a dildo shaped like a dog penis? Bestiality is just as illegal and non-consensual.
I just don’t know where or why I should draw a line. I don’t support it. I don’t defend it. I just slowly back out of the room shaking my head.
I guess I will say this, though — I’ve engaged in a lot of kink and done a lot of things in play I would never do in real life. I’ve done rape play, strangulation, and cutting among other things… none of those are things I have a secret desire to do for real. But I do enjoy them in the context of play. I enjoy novel forms of intimacy with a consenting partner.
If I can do those things without harboring a secret desire to rape and murder, it stands to reason people could fuck a rubber hole that looks like a child for reasons other wanting to do it for real.
