Imho desktop Linux is usually set up where a single bad app can lock up the whole system. This is not every Linux system, but I run across it more than I would like. I believe part of this is an optimistic approach to memory management which makes the system run better overall most of the time.
Windows seems slow as hell most of the time, but killing a process seems to work reliably (not clicking on the hung app takeover UI, using task kill or task manager)
I don’t understand these memes about killing processes in Linux vs Windows.
The killing process on Windows used to work better. Since about Windows 8 it’s not been quite the same.
kill -9😎You really shouldn’t do that. You risk leaving behind children and locks
That’s why you should ask nicely first with kill -SIGHUP
Then if that doesn’t work you can clean up the murder scene later.Hey man, I’ve got a hammer, and that process looks a lot like a nail.
The process looks like a buggy application
kill -15Terminate normally if possible.
think both of them wait a while, and then ask if you want to eviscerate it
I’m not sure what this comic is trying to say but in my recent experience a single misbehaving website can still consume all available swap at which point Linux will sometimes completely lock up for many minutes before the out-of-memory killer decides what to kill - and then sometimes it still kills the desktop environment instead of the browser.
(I do know how to use
oom_adj; I’m talking about the default configuration on popular desktop distros.)Linux is slow at killing apps when you run out of memory because it was designed to also run on low spec hardware even if very slowly (making the ui totally unrensposnive) due to swapping.
This comic is about the
killcommand, how Linux kernel is handling force stopping apps vs (old?) Windows when if App frozed it was hard to close it. Now with modern apps and hardware you very rarely see that as most apps are designed to have asynchronous logic that is correctly handled, but it’s still more or less relevant.
taskill /F /IM app.exeThere you go
Too much typing.
alias kill="kill -9"That’s Linux not Windows
Yes you have arrived at exactly my fucking point
Which was?
alias murder=“killall -9”
Tbf, thanks to X11 Linux isn’t safe from stuff like that.
When I use my VR glasses, Steam sometimes creates an uncloseable X window that isn’t attached to any process. I don’t think even killing XWayland gets rid of it.
On Plasma Desktop, pressing Ctrl+Alt+ESC kills anything you click on next, instantly. There is truly nothing you can’t kill that way, even the desktop itself.
Don’t think I haven’t tried that.
I also tried the debug menu,
xkillusing the window ID, … it’s immortal.Have you tried silver, crosses or a stake?
Do I need to #include those first?
Haven’t had to use them recently, check out the man?
